|   INTERVIEW 
              TRANSCRIPT - Dr. Jorgen Skjeveland 
               
            
               
                |    Jorgen 
                    Skjeveland is Project Leader for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife 
                    Services in Annapolis, Maryland. 
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              Can you give us a little summation of what happened with striped 
              bass here? 
            Striped bass 
              in the early part of the 80s or late 70s was in real 
              trouble and it was the early 80s that they were even talking 
              about listing striped bass as an endangered species and now with 
              the current management scheme we have now, it probably is as abundant 
              as it ever has been in history. So its been a great big success. 
              
              What did it involve to get there? Tell me about some of the regime. 
            Probably one 
              of the biggest reasons for the comeback of the striped bass has 
              been the moratorium here in the Chesapeake Bay. Restrictive size 
              limits and seasons along the coast have been enforced. And there 
              are still now very restrictive a very tightly controlled size limits 
              and quotas and seasons up and down the coast that keep the fishery 
              doing as well as it is now.  
              
              So, it started off with the moratorium is that correct? 
            It started off 
              with a moratorium here in the Chesapeake Bay and then restrictive 
              seasons and bag limits along the coast. 
              
              Would you tell us what the moratorium is? 
            There was a 
              complete fishing ban for the Chesapeake Bay states and now there 
              is still a quota for the state-for the Bay area. 
            No one was allowed 
              to fish for striped bass. If you caught one accidentally, you had 
              to let it go. No one was allowed to keep any striped bass at all. 
               
            That lasted 
              for about five years. Then it was relaxed with a very tight, short 
              season and then it was declared recovered here in the states. There 
              were very tight bag limits here in the states for a year or two 
              or three. 
            In the Chesapeake 
              Bay there was a total fishing moratorium, which meant that no one 
              could catch any striped bass. And that lasted for 5 years and then 
              it was relaxed and finally lifted. 
              
              Could you tell us the reason why the moratorium was lifted? 
            The moratorium 
              was lifted because the fish started coming back to spawn and then 
              we had enough offspring that would allow for the stocks to be fished. 
               
              
              What kind of regime is now in effect that is making sure this doesnt 
              happen all over again? 
            It is tightly 
              controlled by a fishery management plan by the Atlantic States Marine 
              Fishery Commission and there is a group of scientists from each 
              state that is closely monitoring the fishery with length of size 
              of season, bag limits, size limits and quotas for each state. 
            Thats 
              just to keep the quota so that there is some sort of control on 
              how much they can catch  the commercial fisherman can only 
              catch so many, when they reach that, they have to shut down. 
              
              You guys did the moratorium and now youve got these management 
              regimes in. What do you think? What have you done here with striped 
              bass?  
            Striped bass 
              basically was brought home being listed as an endangered species 
              to being as abundant as it probably ever has been over just a relatively 
              short period of time  less than ten years. 
              
              Is this going to be an example for other fisheries? 
            It could very 
              well be an example for other fisheries, but youve got to bite 
              downespecially in the beginning anyway, which is probably 
              going to hurt the fisherman in the short term but help them in the 
              long term. 
              
              Part of the regime had to do with the cleaning up of the water. 
              Striped bass have been brought back due to the cleaning up of the 
              water. 
            Because striped 
              bass being an anadramous fish that spawns in the freshwater tributaries 
              of the bays here, it probably also has been a great help that the 
              last decade or two there has been a great push to clean up the spawning 
              rivers, or to clean up the water that comes into the bay. 
            Well, one of 
              the things that we are probably the proudest of is that we are part 
              of this turn around. We went from a few years ago almost to being 
              an endangered species to being such a success story. 
              
              Do you think any other fisheries, fishery management efforts can 
              take lessons from what happened here? 
            Yes. I think 
              they can  and also are. I guess I can mention that some of 
              this legislation has extended this sort of system to the rest of 
              the Atlantic Coast to the inland species, the inshore species. 
            So that is something 
              new that is to be tried again with other species. So well 
              see if it works. 
            It worked for 
              striped bass and were hoping that it could work for the rest 
              of the Atlantic Coast species. 
              
              How do you think these recreational fishermen and these commercial 
              fishermen feel about it? 
            With striped 
              bass, I generally think they did bite it. By the time that the fisheries 
              and the populations of fish were getting so bad that there were 
              still some problems, there was still some opposition to the very 
              severe fishing moratorium. But generally it was fairly well received. 
              
              Do you think the fishermen feel like it was successful? 
            Oh yes. Fishermen 
              do feel like it was successful thing. Especially now when you can 
              go out again and catch fish.  
            Originally, 
              there was some opposition to it, but I think generally it was well 
              known by everyone that there were serious problems. Now that everyone 
              can go out and catch fish again, I think that everyone feels like 
              it was quite a success story. 
            Probably the 
              biggest opposition was by the commercial fishermen. However, they 
              did get compensated for not being able to fish. 
            And so, that 
              sort of softened their opposition to it.  
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